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What Would You Be If You Were Not a Christian? #93: Dangerous Life
Nate Williams and the Dangerous Life Team ask the question, "What would you be if you were not a Christian?" Then, they discuss why these alternatives fall short compared to Christianity.
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my, if I wasn't a christian, I would probably be like helen keller in the sense of the things that I would do that the people that would write about you wouldn't even believe so I'm glad I was recording for that are you serious?
Speaker 2:Welcome to the Dangerous Faith Podcast and our version of Dangerous Life. The question for today is if you were not a Christian, what would you be? And we'll look at different religions, different worldviews, and so with me, for our Dangerous Life team, we have Zeke, Blake and Chloe, and so I'll just open it up. We're all Christians here, and we've been Christians for various lengths Some of us maybe since we were little, others of us maybe last couple years. So I want to ask y'all if you were not a Christian, what would you be? Anyone want to start us off?
Speaker 3:Ladies first, oh yeah, ladies first. Christian, what would you be? Anyone want to start us off?
Speaker 4:Ladies first. Oh yeah, ladies first. Oh, ladies first. Okay, I'll go first. Honestly, this question is really hard for me to answer because I can't even imagine what it would be like not being a Christian. But I'll say why are you laughing? I'm laughing.
Speaker 2:Okay, um, why are you laughing? I'm laughing. Okay, blake was rolling his eyes. That's the. That's the Sunday school, chloe. Answer Okay.
Speaker 4:I do have an answer, but I don't. It's okay. My thing is one I don't feel like I'm super knowledgeable about other religions, so it's hard for me to like think through them first and then two, like I grew up in the United States so the common, most common religion is Christianity. So I feel like you know, if I was to grow up and have the same life I have now, but not be a Christian like I, would probably just be like agnostic, not really care maybe not not like not really care to think about religion, just kind of live my life and do my own thing.
Speaker 2:Okay, so, chloe, you could see in an alternate universe, if I wasn't a Christian, I would be an agnostic. And so a little bit of background for the episode. We're going to walk through some other religions outside of Christianity. What's appealing about them? But ultimately, why are you a Christian? Why are you not these things that we're talking about? So for Chloe, it's agnosticism. Now, blake, what about you If you were not a Christian? What would you be?
Speaker 1:I'd probably be like kind of like with Chloe, like agnostic, but I'd be more like hedonistic or not hedonistic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'd be, more hedonistic about it Living for pleasure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm very, by nature, just cynical, only care about myself kind of deal, and for people who've known me a while they may agree with that and then some may not. But based on who I know about myself, yes, if God had not intervened when he did, I would definitely be a hedonistic agnostic and I would only do what I what would benefit me, Gotcha.
Speaker 2:So little hedonism, narcissism and then ultimately, when it comes to the guards, the God stuff, the guard stuff. Wow, the God stuff, it's who?
Speaker 1:knows. Yeah, I would probably like be like one of those agnostics who think they knew everything. They weren't intellectually honest, if that makes sense. Like they like I'd be one of those people. They weren't intellectually honest, if that makes sense. Like I'd be one of those people. I've never read the Bible but I've listened to Richard Dawkins talk so I'm going to assume I know everything, every counter argument. That's how I'd be.
Speaker 3:Zeke, what about you? I'm trying to think of an answer they didn't give. But the problem is, as I process the other religions, I'm like man it's there's not really a good option as far as like actual religion religions I mean. I know I would consider atheism and agnosticism a bit of a religion in itself, but I know that technically it doesn't fall under what most people can define as one, but they are though. I mean in practice they are, but technically they're not.
Speaker 3:So I'm trying to think if it wasn't agnosticism because that's probably my answer At first I was like, oh well, judaism. But then I got to thinking, well, if I'm not a Christian, that means there's still Christianity, and I couldn't believe in Judaism without believing also in Christianity. So I can't do that one, oh goodness, what about? Could you be?
Speaker 1:Islamic or like Muslim, no.
Speaker 3:That would be like. That's like the lowest on the list. I would be an atheist before I do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I agree with that one.
Speaker 3:So maybe Judaism, maybe agnosticism Is that kind of like where you're settling. I would probably. I don't want to give the same answer as him, but yeah, I'm leaning towards agnosticism because, like, I would still think that there'd be some hard questions and we can get into that and I'll shut up, but I think that because of certain reasons, I would have to fall back on agnosticism because the other ones don't have enough good reasons and you can, we can dive into that. I'll shut up. Right, what?
Speaker 2:would you choose nate? I think for me. For me, I would choose judaism well you are a jew.
Speaker 1:So now, yes, that is a you don't get.
Speaker 2:Yes, that is a running friendship joke.
Speaker 1:It's not a joke, it's a fact. You are Jewish. We're not even making fun of you.
Speaker 2:Let's just say some people add an element of what he thinks is humor. Justin's not here.
Speaker 1:So you can't, I was not going to mention him by name, you can bleep that out.
Speaker 3:Bleep is not here.
Speaker 2:Bleep Anyways. Yes, I am Jewish by blood as well, so they're kind of hitting me with a duh. You are Jewish.
Speaker 3:Yes, zeke Side tangent, why do you not consider yourself a Messianic Jew, or do you?
Speaker 2:So Messianic Jews and I have some of those in my family. I think it's wonderful, I think it's wonderful, I think it's great but they have an emphasis on keeping certain aspects of the Old Testament law and keeping kosher, maybe, and different feasts feasts of this, feasts of that and so they try to. Obviously they're Christians, that's the messianic part but they do try to keep up with some of the traditions and calendars and stuff that's in the Old Testament, gotcha. So I'm not opposed to that, but because that's not a point of emphasis, I would not call myself a messianic Jew.
Speaker 3:So that would be like the defining difference between someone who's a messianic Jew versus you. Wouldn't call yourself that, because there's that kind of how they practice it. Yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, and so I think it's a good thing. I don't see anything wrong with it. But I'm not as invested in some of those things that now, in Christ, new Testament church, we're not obligated to practice. They just choose to practice. And I don't think anything's wrong with that as long as it doesn't become legalistic to practice. And I don't think anything's wrong with that as long as it doesn't become legalistic.
Speaker 2:But anyways, I am Jewish by blood, but I think if I was not a Christian, I would be Jewish by religion as well. Just some of the aspects of the foundation of the Old Testament the image of God. I love that Image of God that humans have inherent value and worth, the Ten Commandments and natural law, the way God made the world. I would just see certain aspects of Judaism that I find very appealing if I did not see Jesus as the fulfillment of Old Testament scripture. So I think that would be the answer for me, but anyway. So, moving now that we all said our various answers, and I think this episode will heavily feature agnosticism because of that, moving now to the second part Okay, why are you not an agnostic? And then at the end I'll say well, I'm not a practicing religious Jew, but opening it back to y'all. If that's the most appealing thing outside of Christianity that you could come up with, why are you a Christian instead of that thing?
Speaker 1:So for me, can you ask that one more?
Speaker 3:time. I have a thought, but I just want to make sure. Why are you a Christian instead of an agnostic?
Speaker 1:Got it, yeah, so for me, agnosticism first off. Agnosticism is acknowledging that there is a creator of some sort.
Speaker 2:That there could be.
Speaker 1:Most of the time when people are agnostic, it's more so they don't know which one to believe, but they do have kind of a consensus that there is a creator of some sort To be fair.
Speaker 3:that's become more modern.
Speaker 1:It's more modern.
Speaker 3:There are two forms. There's the form that says I don't know, you don't know, we can't, no one can know, Right. But then there's also a lot of people today, I think they fall more into spiritual but not religious, in the sense of saying, yeah, there's some God out there, but I don't know who it is and I don't want a God who's going to you know reason why I said that is just because of intellectual honesty.
Speaker 1:By that and like, for instance, like I couldn't be an eight, I would choose agnosticism over atheism, because atheists, you have to completely come to the point that, okay, there is no god right, which then brings up more relativity, and you have to be willing to fall on your sword for that. And I can't follow my, and even if I was, I couldn't follow my sword for that. And then, when it comes to agnosticism, for me it's like okay, I've acknowledged that something is out there, so I can either be lazy and say that there is something, but I don't care to know it, and that, I think, is being dishonest to yourself, not seeking the truth. That's just you being lazy. I don't think that makes you smart or anything like that.
Speaker 1:I think that's just being or you have to decide what it is, and then that brings you to the point of okay, now I've got to decide what it is. Then you start looking at all the different gods and you start putting them to the test and I think for me it just comes down to Christianity has the strongest argument. Now, as Christians, we can't prove God exists, necessarily, but we can look at the history and we can look at the probability and it's more probable that it is the Judeo-Christian God rather than Allah, rather than Buddha, or rather than there just not being anything. So that's why, as a Christian, I lean. That's what first off, that's what really got me to Christianity, was that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Zeke or Chloe? Why are you a Christian instead of agnostic?
Speaker 4:You got it.
Speaker 3:I'll give answers, y'all don't give.
Speaker 4:I don't feel like I have a great answer to this, but I would say agnostic, like that seems a little nobody take this the wrong way but lazy to me.
Speaker 4:Like it just seems lazy to be, like, oh yeah, there's probably something out there, but I don't really care to take the time or effort to look into it and decide for myself. Like I don't want to get into having to go to church and like having to read my Bible and having to do all these things. So they just decide, I'm just not going to care, I'm not going to worry about it, um, but for me I'm not, I'm not like that, like I I do, like seek truth and like um, so I seek God because I believe he is the truth. But, um, but yeah, that's kind of just my answer Like I believe it, cause it's true, um, I've seen it, I've seen it in my own life to be true and I care to know, like, if there's a creator, then I want to know that creator, um, and I believe the creator is God, so I'm going to worship him.
Speaker 2:Okay. So you see a little bit of a laziness there, kind of of like well who knows? Kind of a shrug, and you're not about that. You want to research, look into things and you practice your faith and God's true to you, okay.
Speaker 3:Zeke, what about you? There's a lot of different reasons, but I guess what has been the most. What's the word I'm looking for? Encouraging is kind of the word I'm wanting to go with, but the thing that kind of it's the most convincing thing for me is kind of just the fact that from like scientific arguments, but also from personal experience, so like I've just seen God work in my life and the lives around me in situations that I would call miracles, that I can't explain through a material worldview, and if I didn't believe in a God, I'd have to be a materialist and say that everything's material. And the reason why I can't do that is because there is.
Speaker 3:At one point there wasn't material. So what was there before material? Going back to the very beginning, what? Like you know, we say that there's a Big Bang by the way, christian scientists who came up with that theory but we go all the way back. What was there before the Big Bang? And, if we're being honest, it was nothing material.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, that leaves us with something immaterial, something that chose to bring everything into existence and that, personally, lines up with me, that lines up perfectly with the Christian God and everything that he says and everything that he's written in his book. So that would be one of the stronger cases. And then, like I said, personal experience. I've just seen God work in my life and the life of others in ways that don't make sense to me, like we talked about today in Sunday School. Like there's certain times where maybe we've gotten peace that literally, like Philippians says that passes understanding. Like we can't explain why we had peace in a situation that there was no room for peace. Or maybe we've seen someone we had, a little girl, a little baby, who's she's a little over a year old now.
Speaker 3:She's like a year and a half now yeah, she's a year and a half now who, whenever she was still in the womb, the doctor says she's not going to make it, she's going to die. Just be prepared.
Speaker 4:And you heard something later. And she was born at 22.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh yeah, that's right. She was born at 22 weeks and they said, yeah, she's not gonna live very much longer, and he's and the dad's like, well, my doctor doesn't worry about those kinds of things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so you know, god provided and that little baby's alive and well today that's amazing yeah, stuff like that, just countless things that uh, time and time again, god's proven that and I think you know Romans, I think it's Romans that gets it right. Like you know, creation cries out and preaches that God is true, like to have a creation itself, you have to have a creator. I know that's a really simplistic way.
Speaker 2:And atheists would argue with that and go and nitpick and whatnot. But for the average person who's open to hearing about God, I think that's a pretty compelling argument. Prophecy that there are lots and lots of prophecies in the Old Testament and others much smarter than myself have gone through just calculations and probabilities and all the rest of it of prophecy one person fulfilling all these different prophecies and it's mathematically to the point of a miracle of one person being able to fulfill all of them. And so Jesus is the Messiah foretold in the Old Testament and he is the one that the Jews leading up to, obviously, when he came onto the scene, that they were looking for a king, a prophet and a priest all in one. And so I think that's ultimately why I would not be a practicing religious Jew. It's because of Jesus being the Messiah.
Speaker 2:Now Jews will quibble with that. They'll say different things about Jesus not fulfilling certain prophecies, like peace on earth and things like that, and that would take the episode in a different direction. So they'll have some quibbles about some of those descriptions. But just incredible, his life, obviously, and his resurrection. So that's why I would say ultimately I am not a practicing religious Jew, even if I am by blood but Zeke.
Speaker 3:I was wanting to state my case as short as I can. You can cut this up wherever you need to, but I made the point that Islam would be the last one on my list. I would go through every other route before I got to Islam. Yeah that's fine and I don't know if y'all noticed this. If you watch much apologetic stuff here lately, like the more popular channels I listen to have all been getting into Islam lately. Yeah, I assume it's cause world events and stuff Capturing Christianity comes to mind for me yeah.
Speaker 3:Like he's never done something on them. And then recently he just came out with one, and I think I'm glad that they're doing that because obviously it's pertinent to today. And I don't. I've got what I'm about to say. I'm not mad at individual Muslims. I went to school with several of them and I consider them good friends. I don't have hate towards the individuals, but the religion itself and what it teaches, its foundations of it, I strictly oppose from every fiber of my being. And not only that, but it claims that our religion's true and our religion says it's false. So, by definition, I can't believe in something that contradicts itself.
Speaker 3:Exactly, there's a lot of reasons, but that's just one of my main ones.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm the same way with Islam, because I've been watching a lot of stuff like that too, and especially I've been watching this Muslim who converted to Christianity, who actually goes on like apologetic debates with other Muslims, and he actually uses the Quran? What is his name? I don't necessarily like the way he does it, because he does get very aggressive with the Muslims, but he even says he's like I'm going to attack you like a lion If you attack my savior. I'm going to attack your prophet. That's the language that he uses.
Speaker 1:And I guess because if you've ever done apologetic or seen apologetic debates with Muslims, they're very like not all of them, but they mostly won't let you get a word in Now.
Speaker 3:I was going to say I'd give a defense to him. Because there's a guy I listen to, david Wood. He was, he's never been a Muslim, but he comes off as a little aggressive and, to be fair, I wouldn't be as aggressive as him, but I think he has a good point. And to what you said, if you listen to actual Muslim apologists, they are all very aggressive and very like that's their culture. I'm not saying it's a bad thing all the time, but like that's how their culture is. So like if you're going to speak to that culture, you're going to take on parts of that culture to kind of get through to them. So if they come off as aggressive, there's kind of a reason for that.
Speaker 1:Well, when your religion is also based on authority, but you do it in love, obviously, right, exactly. And when your religion is based on authority rather than like, for us it's like humility.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean you're going to be like that. It's the same reason why Andrew Tate's like you know he's like Muslims. Why don't you like, not Muslims, christians? Why don't you defend or what Fight? And one big thing that really turned me off to Islam was the fact that one they don't even know if their own prophet, the prophet Muhammad, made it. I mean, this is a guy that you based your belief on. You don't even know if he made it.
Speaker 3:I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they also also in the Sunnah. Maybe I don't know. I think it talks, there's something like that. It talks more about Mary, but it says that Muhammad's mother, the prophet that your whole religion is kind of based on. They don't even know if she, like it, literally says like don't pray for your mother, Forgiveness will not be given to her. Allah also upholds pedophilia but yet he rejects adoption. So it's like you get all these like weird.
Speaker 3:It's just awful If you just try to read the Quran you'll see. Anyways, that was our Muslim section. I'm good. We can do a whole episode on that someday.
Speaker 2:I agree with those things. I think Islam does not have a strong basis, good arguments and support for the truthfulness of its various claims. So I'm with you all there. And then you can just run the gamut of other things the Eastern religions, Hinduism and Buddhism. Just simple questions will undo those Like what evidence do you have for all these cycles of suffering, endless suffering, reincarnation, and what's your evidence for this? What's your evidence for that? So those are not evidence-based religions, it's more feelings.
Speaker 3:I remembered another reason for why I'm Christian and I'm surprised I didn't remember it sooner. It's one of my biggest reasons and I think that Christianity best deals with the problem of evil, and I think that's one that every person, whether they ever heard the term problem of evil I think we've all experienced it at one time or another Because we've all been in a situation where we said that's not fair, that's not right, that shouldn't have happened. If we've ever said anything like that, that's essentially what the problem of evil is. Saying that probably evil states why is there evil if god is good? Or why is there evil at all? And no matter what religion you go to, they all have to deal with that one problem. Like you're gonna have quib, have quibbles between Christianity and Islam, that's just to them two Atheism, atheists and Christianity, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3:There's going to be certain things that only certain camps deal with, but this one I see applies to every single one, even atheists. Because atheists will say what about the problem of evil? Why is there evil if God is good? Well, if I'm an atheist, there is no evil. The thing I'm complaining about sorry, that's just how molecules work. That's how things happen.
Speaker 3:More relativity, it's all relative, so I can't really complain whenever a child dies of cancer. Christianity, when I say I think it handles it the best is you can ask why a certain thing might have happened. You can say God, why did you allow this? What you can't say is that God doesn't care, and I say that because Christ came down and suffered the same evil that we complain about.
Speaker 3:He allowed it to happen to himself so that he could deal with evil. Ultimately and I think that answers it for me it doesn't give a final answer, but it gives me a comforting enough answer to know that, while I may not understand it, because I'm not God, at least I know that God isn't distant.
Speaker 2:I've often said the atheist's answer to evil or response to evil is really insulting If you think about it. In atheism, everything is natural, and that includes all sorts of suffering. So I think, hit the nail on the head. We have a God who cares. But anyways, chloe, we've been yapping on and on Any thoughts, or we can just keep on rolling.
Speaker 4:Maybe I can keep on rolling. I'm just listening.
Speaker 2:Well, there we go. And one thing. So I went through a time, I guess towards the end of high school, beginning of college, where I really struggled with my faith and apologetics annoyed the crap out of me because I could answer my questions, the questions that I would use as a justification to live life the way that I would want to live, you know, hedonistically, do the things that any college age male would like to do. Unfortunately, well, I could answer those questions and it bugged the ish out of me because I'm like, dang it. I actually have good answers for this, the typical, you know.
Speaker 2:How do we know the Bible is the word of God? How do we know God exists, et cetera, et cetera, the problem of evil and suffering, and I think that's why I encourage people and Zeke's phenomenal with this Just get trained in apologetics, be able to answer some of the basics. Just how do you know God exists? I encourage people to have a couple arguments down pat. How do we know that Jesus rose from the dead? I point people to the minimal facts argument from Gary Habermas. Be able to answer different aspects of social issues. Why is marriage between one man and one woman? How do we know life begins in the womb, et cetera, et cetera. So I just encourage everyone to have a decent apologetical base, zeke.
Speaker 3:What resource do people in the Coleman area have? If they wanted to learn more about that.
Speaker 2:Well, there are a couple I could point to. One is I hope this podcast is a blessing to people. We'll talk about a wide variety of topics but then coming up, there we go.
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Speaker 2:We're looking to start in, probably the beginning of 2025, what's called a stand to reason outpost and basically Zeke and I will be co-leading and we're open to having other co-leaders as well, but we'll meet at just different churches inside of Coleman County and it'll be an apologetics and evangelism training group. So we'll look to be able to answer some of the basic questions and eventually, as Zeke does a good job here, we want to go out into the community and evangelize, share the gospel, tell people about Jesus, and so in 2025, if that interests you, you want to be a part of that group. It's called an outpost. We'll have more information for you as the time draw nears for that. But yes, str Outpost we'll start that pretty soon. But then obviously there are lots of good podcasts and YouTube channels and the rest of it.
Speaker 2:But anyways, I think, going back to agnosticism, one of the greatest weaknesses there is it takes a lot of confidence to say that we don't have enough knowledge to make a decision. So, for example, we have incredible breakthroughs with science and astronomy, cosmology, biology, the rest of it. Philosophically, people have been doing philosophy for thousands of years, going back to the Greeks, and the rest of it, theology, obviously you have Old Testament, new Testament, prophets and preachers and apostles and theologians and the rest of it. Anyways, to be able to look at all of the information that we have for all time and to kind of shrug and say, well, I don't know if God exists, or say something even stronger I don't think we can know, they're just aspects of that that I find very it's like. Well, how do you know that we can't know how?
Speaker 2:do you know that there's not enough knowledge? Do you have that knowledge to know that there's not enough knowledge? And so sometimes I find that skeptics and the agnostic side of things, they're not skeptical of their skepticism and that's one of the frustrating parts with agnosticism. But anyways, any other thoughts there? We kind of ran through a bunch of different topics, from Judaism to Islam to agnosticism and the rest of it, anything else you all want to bring up.
Speaker 1:I've always found it so interesting, especially when people are like you, saying like agnosticism, like it's a lazy. To me it is kind of like a lazy argument in a way.
Speaker 1:But I think, why so much? I think why people are so lazy about it is because, like for me, coming in, I'm not saying I was agnostic, I just I got to a point where I just I guess I yeah, I just didn't know, I just didn't know, I just got lost. And so to me it's like you can go about it two ways, you can. You can see your conscience so much to where you're just like, okay, I'm not even going to even accept the idea of God. And then your eternal salvation becomes more like a. Do I prefer chocolate, ice cream or vanilla ice cream Rather than like? For me it became like you know, eternity. Where do I want to spend eternity? Do I want to be able to say, okay, when I die, there's nothing, which is terrifying in itself, dying going back to nothing, because that means, no matter what you do, it was all meaningless. That means, no matter what you do, it's all meaningless.
Speaker 1:Or do I want to actually stand before a God and hopefully enter salvation, or the alternative is way worse not be with that God, and so I think why people are so lazy is because it's so much easier for us to just say I'm content with where I'm at in life. Kind of like how Rev John says people say they love their life, but they hate. What is it? I love my. I know what you mean.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to figure out the quote Love my life, but hate the way I'm living.
Speaker 1:Yes or reverse it, Something like that. Like I hate the way I live, but I love my life.
Speaker 3:Or something along that Maybe I love being alive, but I hate the way I live.
Speaker 1:Something like that, and it's just like people have to come to grips. It's like whenever they finally realize, okay, there's a God. Now it's like, like I said, it goes from being do I prefer chocolate ice cream or vanilla ice cream? Now it's like do I want to give up this way that I live?
Speaker 1:in exchange for this and a lot of people. They just can't, they just don't want to do that, it's too hard. It's much easier for someone to say well, I'd rather have an abortion because I can have as much sex as I want and not be held accountable or anything, versus being abstinent and protecting life as sacred.
Speaker 2:If God exists all of a sudden and this God is a certain God I'm going to have to change the way I live Exactly, and that's inconvenient, I think that's even pertinent in religion itself.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Looking back, it came from the sermon we heard today. It went through Samuel. I've been going through Samuel lately anyway, so it kind of stuck out to me. You have the people who, up until this point, God has been their king. They haven't had a physical king like all the other nations, and they're like God, we're tired of having you as king, we want a physical king, Like they pretty much said we don't. And God even says that. He says they didn't reject you, Samuel, they rejected me. And then he skipped ahead to John at the end of John, where Pilate's like hey, here's your king. And they say we have no king except.
Speaker 3:Caesar, exactly, and it's just like you're saying like, at the end of the day, everyone doesn't want God as their king. Whether it's agnostic or you're just kind of, you can even be other religions and still not want God as your king. You just want your idea of God as king.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Good, good thoughts, anything else, before we take this home.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:All right, blake, okay.
Speaker 1:Take me home.
Speaker 2:Country road.
Speaker 1:If you're an agnostic, stop. Stop. Get some help, stop Just kidding. We love you. Yeah, we maybe. I don't know.
Speaker 4:Do we?
Speaker 1:love agnostics. Chloe, Chloe hates agnostics.
Speaker 4:Right, I did we love. Did we love agnostics? Chloe? Chloe hates agnostics. Right, I'm just?
Speaker 2:gonna keep my mouth shut wow, she didn't deny it.
Speaker 1:I think we should end on that, thank you.