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*Adult-ish Content* #77: Dangerous Life– Throuples and Polyamory

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*Adult-ish Content* #77: Dangerous Life– Throuples and Polyamory
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*Adult-ish Content* #77: Dangerous Life– Throuples and Polyamory
Apr 08, 2024
Nathan

The Dangerous Life team (plus Trent!) tackles throuples and polyamory. How should Christian leaders respond to the modern, wild world of dating and relationships?

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The Dangerous Life team (plus Trent!) tackles throuples and polyamory. How should Christian leaders respond to the modern, wild world of dating and relationships?

Website: www.dangerousfaith.net
YouTube: Dangerous Faith
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Instagram: nwdangerousfaith
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Facebook: @NWDangerousFaith

Speaker 1:

So you want a good laugh today yeah, I almost said Erection Sunday instead of Resurrection Sunday during Children's Time. Today, almost.

Speaker 3:

During Children's Time.

Speaker 1:

Caught myself. Thank God, I was talking to children, to children welcome back to the dangerous faith podcast.

Speaker 4:

I have the dangerous life team with me blake, zeke, chloe and honorary member from our church, trent. If he so chooses, he is welcome to hop in on the episode. And we're talking about throuples and polyamory in this episode because, well, let's just admit, our world is just very interesting A lot of different trends, a lot of different relationship practices, and so, from a Christian perspective, how do we think about this? How do we view this? We have future and present leaders in the church, right here, right now, in this room, and I know, as this practice becomes more prevalent, we will need a Christian ministry kind of response if we don't have one already. So, anyways, we'll get started with a broad question of throuples. Do we know what it is? Also, how prevalent is it when it comes to social media, when it comes to your own personal life, like, do you see it around or do you think it's not here quite in this part of alabama yet? So let's open it up. Throuples, uh, do you know what it is? Also, is it in your corner of the world?

Speaker 2:

do you know what it is blake?

Speaker 4:

blake, do you know what throuples are um? Is I know it's more than two that's accurate. That would be a couple, and then, I know we have a couple uab students here. Do you see the stuff on campus? Like just curious?

Speaker 5:

not that I'm aware of. Yeah, I mean, unless just how would I know? Didn't know about it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I probably through seeing things you don't want to see. Yeah, I haven't seen.

Speaker 2:

Well, I see plenty of things I don't want to see, but I haven't seen that.

Speaker 3:

Yes, like I will say I have seen a couple of them. Then there was like a couple or a throuple throuple.

Speaker 2:

I've seen a couple of throuples.

Speaker 3:

Um, all right, dr seuss, but uh, yeah, believe it or not? Uh, chloe, I'm not, we're not name dropping, but in high school there were a couple that I knew about really okay a couple of a couple of throuple couples.

Speaker 5:

Well, you'll have to tell me after the podcast, I'll tell you.

Speaker 3:

And then there was one where my friend, where he used to live, there was actually a lesbian couple upstairs. They were swingers.

Speaker 4:

Okay, do we count?

Speaker 3:

swingers as throuples.

Speaker 4:

I guess polyamory it would fall under maybe the broad umbrella of polyamory, open marriages.

Speaker 3:

If you consider those marriages, I don't know Well, there's a lot of that here in Alabama. Swingers is a huge thing here in.

Speaker 4:

Alabama, all right. So it's kind of sort of here, trent, any other thoughts on this?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely not. There's a place in Florida. I forget the name, but it's like a city in Florida that's known for.

Speaker 1:

It's the retirement home people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, how do you? Know, yeah, how do you know, trent, I'm old.

Speaker 5:

He gets vacation once a year.

Speaker 2:

No, but it's so prevalent there that they have like a color code system. Like they ride around on golf carts and if you have a loofah of a certain color, that means a certain thing, that you're into a certain thing.

Speaker 3:

Oh, like the one banana and the pineapple.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's what it was, I saw a few upside-down pineapples on our Disney cruise on the doors.

Speaker 4:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

What does that mean it means they're into the swinging lifestyle Right? Yeah swinging lifestyle.

Speaker 4:

So Trent Okay.

Speaker 1:

I love my wife, and only my wife.

Speaker 2:

He loves his wife we want to be very clear.

Speaker 4:

And so okay. So more and more now I guess it's becoming more popular, prevalent. So I guess our response one thing I've heard is well, surely it's okay from a Christian standpoint because we see all sorts of relationships in the Bible. So we think of Solomon's wonderful example marrying 700 women, 300 concubines Am I getting the number right?

Speaker 1:

You're the Bible scholar there we go.

Speaker 3:

You're the one with the degree.

Speaker 4:

Collectively hundreds and hundreds of women. You have David and others, abraham and all that. So what might a response be if people say, well, polyamory has to be okay, because we see some examples of that in the Bible?

Speaker 2:

A really easy answer to that would be is what's being said in the Bible, prescriptive or descriptive?

Speaker 4:

What do you mean by that?

Speaker 2:

I was about to say that.

Speaker 4:

You are so rude. Can you describe the prescription Good?

Speaker 2:

Yes, so prescriptive meaning. Is it telling me to do said thing or is it just describing something that happened, in a sense that we see plenty of terrible like David and Bathsheba? They have that example in scripture where David does something but it's told to us that's a bad thing. It's just describing how that bad thing happened. It's not telling us go and do that bad thing.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, and I think too, the important thing to realize is that just because it's in the Bible doesn't mean that God is condoning it or supporting it. And if you look at any case in the Bible with polygamy, it never has a good outcome. There's always some kind of bad consequence, because that's not what God desires for us.

Speaker 2:

Also, we have direct rules in the Bible that contradict it. Like Jesus, defines marriage as one man, one woman.

Speaker 5:

So that takes out polyamory homosexuality all of that, the two shall become one.

Speaker 3:

Well, if you add that one, that makes three. Thank you, Professor Blake.

Speaker 1:

That's more than a couple Couples and throuples.

Speaker 4:

A couple throuples coupling in the throupling world, all right, and so with that, I think one thing we have to be mindful of is every age will have its own sins. Not that people didn't sin in different ways and all that, but, for example, it was a very common practice in Bible times, particularly, let's say, the Old Testament, where if you were a wealthy person, you might have multiple wives, and it was just what you did. And just because the Bible describes, like Zeke put so well, describes some of those things, sins of the day, that doesn't mean the Bible supports it, even if it just describes the lifestyles of people who were living at the time.

Speaker 2:

I think that's kind of a testament itself to the Bible that it doesn't shy away or sugarcoat things that happen, bad things that happen. Like if I was writing a religious book that I was trying to afford or something I would just put the good things and the things I wanted people to do. But the Bible is open to what humans are capable of, even the bad and kind of points, not only to the fact that we are capable of such bad things, but that we have a God that's capable of dying for all those bad things.

Speaker 4:

That's a great point, I think, from an apologetic standpoint, that's one of the strengths of the Bible is that, like you said, if you were going to create a religion to rally people around, you'd want the founders to look like heroes, but the disciples look like idiots all the time. In the Gospels you have Paul correcting Peter. You have in the Old Testament David with Bathsheba the murderer, adulterer that story, psalm 51.

Speaker 4:

Abraham throwing his wife to the wolves in Genesis, not literal Not literally, but from a carnal standpoint, just pretending that she was his sister. So anyways, you could read that story in Genesis, that the heroes of the Bible are very human, and again just from a historical standpoint. That lends to its credibility, because the only reason to include embarrassing details is if they actually happen. But anyways, that's an apologetics kind of side note there. Good point and all right. So let's move in a bit of a ministry direction. Okay, so we're all again either future or present leaders in the church. There's a chance, whether you serve in youth group or young adults college age, that there might people that might come into your Bible studies, your events, that are involved in these kind of relationships or at least thinking about it. So, all right, present and future leaders, what might be some principles, advice, wisdom that comes to mind when it comes to people in these sorts of setups? Don't do it, so don't serve in youth group.

Speaker 3:

Oh, don't serve in youth group, or like don't. I'm confused now. Oh no.

Speaker 1:

Every youth pastor needs your help. Please do it.

Speaker 3:

Yes, did I just speak a heresy. No, okay, you just are a heresy. I'm a Hershey.

Speaker 4:

Blake's advice would be don't do it.

Speaker 3:

Okay, don't do it.

Speaker 4:

Now we know serving with teens. Do teens always listen when we say that? Absolutely Every time, every time?

Speaker 1:

Right Trent. I cannot recall a time where a teenager did not take my direct advice to heart.

Speaker 5:

Actually, I think, if you say don't do it, that makes them want to do it even more.

Speaker 1:

Okay, do it Like my children. Exactly Okay, my bad, do it, do it Do it.

Speaker 4:

Do it, do it.

Speaker 1:

What's up brother.

Speaker 2:

All right, nike, I feel like the question's too vague, like what do you mean? Is the person coming to us asking for help saying hey, is this okay? Yeah, or is it? Someone shows up and they're actively in this, they're not looking to quit? Who are we?

Speaker 4:

addressing. It's kind of all the above in that insert the hypothetical you would like, but, as this enters the church, just what might be some good principles that we can use to address, but in terms of a specific hypothetical that could be up to you can use to address, but in terms of a specific hypothetical that could be up to you.

Speaker 3:

Well, I think we need to start by the LSD talk. You know, love, sex and dating, not the drug.

Speaker 4:

But we should take it while we're talking about it. All right Black is for drugs.

Speaker 3:

Go on, but I think we should have those conversations and we should go ahead, because these kids are young, I mean we shouldn't go into graphic detail about all these things. Because these kids are young, I mean we shouldn't be going to graphic detail about all these things, but we do have to be open and honest with them, because these are things that they're going to start experiencing. You know, they have hormones, just like we do, and they're wanting to find that person, just like how we want to find that person. We're older so we can have better control of it than they can. But I think it's well, to a degree. I guess there's some nuance to that.

Speaker 2:

But for the most part.

Speaker 3:

anyways, I think that we should have those conversations and we should go ahead and lay a foundation for them of saying like this is what God has laid out for these specific things, and if they have that foundation, well you know, maybe, maybe it'll keep them from.

Speaker 2:

So you're saying we should be more proactive in addressing these and giving a solid foundation rather than reactive of waiting for it to happen?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, okay, I think that's good being proactive. Trent, did you have anything you wanted to add?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, just literally the authority of Scripture, what the Bible says. I mean there's power in Jesus' words, so we teach that. I mean I do recognize that the outside us doesn't always look like the new transformed inside us. So there's grace and truth with that. But if you lead with truth, if we're following Jesus like we should be, the outside changes to match the inside.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I think that's put well, and one thing I want to say is that it's important on this issue to teach a holistic faith. So sometimes what we tend to do is have you all ever been skeet shooting?

Speaker 3:

Whoa what? Yes, I'm going somewhere with this analogy. No, what is that? Okay, I'm going somewhere with this analogy. No, what is that?

Speaker 4:

so ski shooting you know, a disc flies out and you take a shotgun and you shoot at the flying disc and anyways. So sometimes we treat issues like that. Trent, you're laughing, what's up?

Speaker 3:

I love Blake we love Blake.

Speaker 4:

Yes, we do we love Blake.

Speaker 3:

how about you? No way, anyways, I think it's just because you're from the north, I love Blake. We love Blake. Yes, we do, we love Blake. How about you? No way, what. Anyways, I think it's just because you're from the north and so we just expect you to eat, you know, biscuits and bangers and mash, and not shoot a gun.

Speaker 4:

You're supposed to be terrified of guns? Oh, that is very not true. So this is where I'm going with the analogy. Sometimes we treat issues in the culture like that, where something comes up and okay, maybe y'all like popping balloons analogy better. Anyways, something comes up and you try to pop it, you try to take care of it as it comes up, like a weed growing up for another analogy as opposed to teaching a holistic, well-grounded faith.

Speaker 4:

So, blake and Trent, you bring up a good point about teaching from the scripture, and scripture doesn't change. So as we address this, we need to have a healthy view of sexuality, we need to have a healthy Christian view for interacting with the culture. We need to have a good definition of marriage. So, before you even address the topic of throuples and polyamory, if we're raising the next generation on a good foundation, you're not grasping at straws trying to just attack whatever comes out and it's chaotic and it's crazy. No, you're doing it in a calm, conversational kind of way, because you've built the foundation on a Christian worldview.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think this. Have you ever like asked a question? But whenever you get the answer, you're like that's the last answer I wanted to hear.

Speaker 3:

Every time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So this I think it's kind of the same way with what you're saying of your response is it's not that we have to necessarily have all the answers for this specific scenario, but that read your Bible and great Cool. Yeah, just read my Bible, that's easy, um. But I mean and that's an answer like if you was to ask me about, uh, jehovah's witnesses are witnessing the muslims? Or pick the category, the topic, the whatever it is the best answer all those is gonna be if you know your bible well enough, you'll be more adept to answer those questions when they come up. Now you can still do more research, obviously, and learn more about it, but having that foundation is the most important part and that's like dang it. Now we've got to learn the entire Bible and, yeah, unfortunately that's the best way to do it. It's harder, it's not an easy answer, it's not as simple as just saying here's the answer to this one topic, but it's going to help you in the long run with all the other things.

Speaker 4:

I think that is a great point. So just Christian leaders out there pastors, youth pastors, sunday school leaders, what have you? This is just so important to know the scriptures in general and then try to apply it as well. And from a pastoral point of view, something that's important to point out we can't say much about throuples and polyamory if the marriages that people see in the church are disasters. Right, and not every marriage is going to be perfect. I do understand.

Speaker 4:

So lots of grace, I want to be very clear about that. But if we're dealing with lots of dysfunctional homes, dads who are not present, et cetera, et cetera, high divorce rates and again, lots of grace in those situations. But I think you know what I'm getting at if people aren't seeing healthy, loving relationships in the church, do we have any ground to stand on if we try to point out perversions in god's design? So if I'm treating the people horribly in my life people, whether it's my spouse or family or whatever friends and then I go and speak out against throuples, people will look at my life and be like Nate. Why would I care to listen to you? Your relationships are terrible. So we do want to make sure that we are pro-life in all the different ways.

Speaker 2:

So, healthy marriages, healthy parenting, good support systems, community structure, good teaching, just different things to be thinking about. So, since we've kind of I think we've kind of all in different ways, said that Bible is most important, having that as our foundation is most important. So, getting to the actual issue of throuples, polyamory, et cetera, what question for y'all? What is the purpose for marriage? Babies? Well, that is one purpose. Thank you, blake. That is the first commandment Be fruitful and multiply. Yeah, so babies is one of them. Bring up kids. What's some other purposes? What is marriage and what is not marriage? Because, if we have a definition, because today, now, marriage has just become I love this person, therefore we're married, or I love these people, therefore we're going to get married. So what's the Christian view of what is marriage?

Speaker 4:

And ultimately going to Ephesians, it's a picture of God and the church, jesus and his bride, so I think it just mirrors the love that God has for us Anything else.

Speaker 3:

Two becoming one, yeah, two becoming one, which makes three.

Speaker 2:

So why would it be important for us as Christians? None of y'all said it's because you feel a certain way about a person. Why is that so important? I mean, I love Chloe.

Speaker 5:

I do have good feelings towards her, but that's not what marriage is Our feelings aren't reliable, Like there's a lot of times that I might get annoyed with you and that doesn't mean she's going to wake up one day and be like I don't want it. Exposed. So if I feel annoyed with you, that doesn't give me good grounds to be like well.

Speaker 3:

I guess I got to just leave.

Speaker 5:

That's liberal propaganda.

Speaker 2:

But, yeah, we can't base it off feelings. It's based off the commitment we made to each other that day. Yeah, and this comes. I mean, we've talked about it a lot, nate, but for those who maybe haven't been as learned as you scholarly people say on the topic, Learned as you Zeke. Yes, yes, I mean for the longest time. Even our nation recognized that they promoted marriage because it helped build a good community. They promoted childbirth because it helps the community to thrive. Can you talk on some of that, like why?

Speaker 2:

that's important and how that's changed over the years.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so marriage was seen as the building block of society. That marriage provides stability and from that stability you then raise children to then become productive, healthy, good members of society. As Blake makes fun of me for my hand motions, sometimes I like to describe these things because it's a podcast and they like to mock me, which I often deserve, anyways. And so it is healthy in a culture to have good marriages, parents together. We see that from statistics, that the statistics of children. What happens to children in single parent homes versus two parent homes, there is a wide gap and this does not tell the story of every single person, but on a macro level that children growing up part of two person homes, they tend to be much more successful and healthy and well-rounded, with fewer mental issues and lower crime, et cetera, et cetera. So all of this stems from just healthy family unit. That's why it's so important to strive for that. I know it'll sometimes will be far from perfect, but it's good to strive for that ideal because overall in a community it'll be healthier, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:

And so a good, good, good point to bring up Zeke. So throuples and polyamory. We talked about just different aspects of that. Chloe, you had a funny clip. You've sent a couple of us just how prevalent it is and how interested people are in it. Can you tell us a little bit about the TV show you mentioned?

Speaker 5:

show you mentioned. Yeah, so actually I don't know what it's called, Maybe like Sister Wives or something. It's a show on TLC.

Speaker 3:

Oh my gosh, my mom used to watch that show. It is Trent's favorite show.

Speaker 5:

This is a new one Trent, Not the old Sister.

Speaker 3:

Wives this is a new Sister.

Speaker 5:

Wives. It popped up on my Interesting. I first heard about it because Allie Beth Stuckey did a little response video to it.

Speaker 3:

Allie who.

Speaker 5:

Allie Beth Stucky.

Speaker 3:

What a weird last name.

Speaker 1:

It's actually Allie Beth.

Speaker 2:

Stucky oh.

Speaker 5:

Three names? Yeah, it's three names.

Speaker 3:

That's just her whole name. Yeah, it's just that one long name.

Speaker 5:

Allie Beth, and then her last name is Stucky.

Speaker 3:

No spaces. Her name has a polyamory.

Speaker 5:

What did I say about y'all interrupting me earlier? Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. So, basically, I don't remember what their last name was, but I found this other two-minute-long video of them explaining it a little bit more and why they got into it. And they said like, oh, we're Christians and we just see in the Bible that this is something that God would want for us. We prayed about it. And then he starts talking and it's so funny because the whole time he's talking, the wife looks so disgusted and he's saying like, yeah, so basically when it says the holy spirit fills us, that's a sexual term. And he's talking about when the sperm goes into the woman. It goes up to her brain and the dna, like I don't even know, Like it was absolutely, and the woman is just making the worst face.

Speaker 4:

As a trained scientist not I can confirm everything that was being said.

Speaker 5:

What I've been through biology classes. I know TNA does not go through the brain.

Speaker 3:

How does sperm get to the brain? It doesn't, and how is there not a bacterial infection? But if you want, to watch that.

Speaker 5:

it's on YouTube but the whole episode is actually on YouTube, but it's crazy and if you watch it you can just see it just leads to awful things, dude.

Speaker 3:

I just don't know the Holy Spirit aspect of that, how he connected those two things.

Speaker 2:

That is, oh, dude there was a spiritual force involved.

Speaker 4:

It just wasn't the Holy Spirit ultimately, a lot of polygamy can come down to people just wanting to sleep with lots of other people, and if you come from a religious background, they try to dress it in Christian language, biblical language. That's what a lot of it comes down to. Is people not being satisfied with their spouse? So, anyways, there is that.

Speaker 1:

Can I just go back on the record and just say again, in case my wife ever hears this I love my wife and only my wife.

Speaker 4:

Did you say you went into the rooms with the pineapple on the cruise? I am?

Speaker 1:

not a crook.

Speaker 4:

Alright, I appreciate Trent's clarification and anyways, there so again. Open marriages, swinging polygamy throuples it's just going to become more and more prevalent. As people, they try to satisfy the deepest longings of the heart, and the way they do that leads them to self-destructive tendencies, but they do. Ultimately, we do want to find satisfaction and fulfillment. We do want to find people who take care of us and love us, but sometimes the way we try to fill those needs is not the healthiest.

Speaker 5:

Yeah and sorry. I just have one more thing to say. I think also it's important to realize that God knows what's best for us. He's the one who created us. He knows how to best maximize our joy in this life. And if he says that two shall become one, then that's what's going to bring us joy, not introducing all the other things. So we could try and try and try, but nothing else is going to satisfy us like that.

Speaker 4:

That's a great ministry point. What we try to satisfy us, we ultimately need to point to God.

Speaker 2:

Ezekiel yes, you brought up another point I was going to say of. Has anyone in here ever been loved perfectly by another human being?

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

My mother is a saint.

Speaker 4:

I'm sure she is. I'm just saying like Zeke, it's my love for you, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But I have.

Speaker 1:

I've never been loved perfectly, you catch another human oh have I've never been loved perfectly.

Speaker 2:

You catch another human, oh damn it. Oh man, we'll have biology class soon. That's just what it comes down to. If, like I can't imagine the thought process of, okay, my me and my wife, like the person who goes through polyamory, oh, me and my wife's relationship isn't good enough for me, I know what'll help. Let's add a third person bingo, yeah, that's brilliant.

Speaker 1:

I can't imagine. I don't know this is not an anti relationship spill, but I can't imagine being in more than one at once as much as. I invest into my wife, especially two kids. As much as I invest, it's mentally, physically and emotionally draining.

Speaker 3:

I can't imagine maybe that's why they do that, just because you can like if you you don't because think about it. If you have two things going on at once, you really can't pour yourself completely into those two things. Which makes you worse at both, Exactly. So it's like would you rather be stressed out on one or just suck at two, but you're getting satisfied.

Speaker 2:

No, I think I would rather be stressed out about one.

Speaker 3:

I think I've figured out why polyamory works. Guys, I think I just cracked the egg.

Speaker 2:

I think the reason is people are just horny and they don't know how to control themselves.

Speaker 3:

Whoa, what did you just say? We've got to bleep that out. You said the H word.

Speaker 5:

I think that there's always hidden intentions. Like if you go back and you watch that show that I was talking about, the whole episode, it kind of just another partner to do things with and like wants to have kids because that girl is younger, so he wants to have more kids through her, um, but then the woman starts talking about how like she can help around the house and like all this stuff, and so I don't think I don't know, I just don't think it's centered around the right One day when you have your mansion, do you will?

Speaker 4:

you not want help around the house?

Speaker 5:

I mean I would, but I would not get another, another. No way, I'm not getting another wife what about another husband?

Speaker 1:

yeah, can you have another husband.

Speaker 3:

No, no, I got enough to take care of hold on it's always so weird, too, when you see polyamory couples like they have this weird dynamic about them.

Speaker 3:

It's like cause I've watched a lot of true crime shows and a lot of them like do like a lot of murders happen with polyamory couples love triangle, and it's always like if if the partner that is, the one that wants more partners tends to be narcissistic, like they tend to like. For instance, like there was a woman she ended up having multiple partners and the one that the first partner was like submissive, like she had abused him to the point emotionally that he was not going to leave, so she was going to run around on him and eventually, once she got done with him, he she ended up killing him. Wow, right, reverse opposite, the guy, once he got done with his wife and he was done with her, killed her. And so it's like when you see those polyamorous relationship couples and I used to live across from a poly this was wild. Okay, I just remember this at the apartment that me and Justin I'm not name dropping, but the apartment that me and Justin and Drew used to live at there was a couple.

Speaker 1:

A thruffle. There was a thruffle, my bad, there was a thruffle.

Speaker 3:

One of the partners was a transgender male or female to male, my mind can't compute that they got. They got pregnant, the girl got pregnant, but there was an act. There was a biological male, the transgender, and then the woman and we I mean obviously we could figure out who who got her pregnant, but she would say that the transgender was the biological father and he was the stepdad and I was like well, but.

Speaker 3:

But when I brought that up because if you look at their dynamic, the woman, the, the, the biological female, she was very narcissistic. It was her way, or the highway she would pitch, she would throw temper tantrums Like they cause a whole bunch of problems.

Speaker 1:

That's just nevermind, I'm sorry. No, continue. What were you going to say? Nope?

Speaker 3:

Was it? Is it against me or is?

Speaker 1:

it just like nope nothing.

Speaker 3:

Continue, Okay, but but it's just. I just noticed that a lot with these poly, with these poly relationships, If you look at the dynamic, it tends to be a, how Zeke says it's like, for lack of a better word a horny narcissist, and that's how it begins Like they begin by wanting to open up the marriage. And then they like just beat down that partner long enough. And they're like okay, we're going to open up the marriage because this is struggling, I'm not satisfied, you're not satisfying me. And then that's how it happens.

Speaker 2:

Bringing this full circle to where we started, back to a foundation of where does this come from and we talked about. There's examples in the Bible and I think that we could honestly use examples today of celebrities or just very wealthy people who do things that we're like. I would never do such thing and I hope that we wouldn't, but I think it all comes back down to is. I think there's a lot of things that we would. We would say we would never do, but if we had the power or the money or the resources to do it and we didn't have Christ, I think there's a lot of things we would do.

Speaker 1:

Especially when hookup culture is celebrated right now. Right exactly, Are we?

Speaker 3:

in a sexual revolution, by the way. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

We're in Nate's office, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my bad A sexual revolution.

Speaker 4:

We're still going. A sexual ravioli From the 60s and 70s. We're still feeling the repercussions of that. So kind of sort of. So we're not yet. But all right, y'all Wrapping up this episode. Does anyone want any last word, last advice? Wisdom, blake, you always have something to say.

Speaker 3:

You know it's me on this one.

Speaker 4:

All right. Never mind. I was going to quote one fish, two fish, but never mind. Red fish, blue fish, yeah, all right. With those profound words we will close out the episode Again. Dangerous Life team, with me Blake Zeke. Chloe also honorary member Trent, who anyways who loves his wife.

Speaker 1:

One more time, please, Abby, if you hear this I love you.

Speaker 4:

Not suspicious at all that we keep having to say that, but alright, only listeners be in poly relationships and we just lost everybody on that one. That would be very interesting indeed. Alright, friends, until next time. I will talk with you later.

Speaker 3:

Peace out Girl Scout.

Speaker 1:

Thank you.

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