Dangerous Faith

#61: Dangerous Life– What Is Addiction? How Can We Fight It?

November 27, 2023 Nathan
Dangerous Faith
#61: Dangerous Life– What Is Addiction? How Can We Fight It?
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The Dangerous Life Squad tackles something that we all face at one time or another: addiction. What is it? How do we recognize it? How do we stop? All of these are addressed (and more, because the group is full of silly gooses).

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Speaker 5:

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Speaker 2:

We finally converted just into the nib ESV yeah, when I tried reading it in class and it just looked like mumbo, chambon piece of paper, I was like, yeah, in first John play it takes to do okay real in the crowd or have you want to? Say it real, in the horses, the crowd self-portrait, but I painted it in Spanish so I don't understand that. So can you sit?

Speaker 5:

by Isaac or somewhere, it just away from Chloe we're gonna, you're gonna. Someone's gonna have to have the corner. Someone's gonna have to have the edge of the Chloe go to the corner no one puts baby in a corner dude that was wet, you rubbing your welcome back to the show.

Speaker 5:

We have some giggle bugs over there with me. We have Blake, justin, mariah Mackenzie, isaac, who is falling asleep, zeke and Chloe glad to have everyone with us, as we have some very interesting conversations pre-recording. But we're gonna talk about addictions tonight. Blake, do you want to say something? No, okay, I thought so. Oh, that's cute. Yeah, this is the danger cut podcast and I'm the host.

Speaker 2:

I guess Nate Williams glad to be with you and we're gonna talk about addictions eventually, but we'll get there.

Speaker 5:

And one thing you often think of with addictions is you think of the very, very serious topics. You think drugs, drinking, maybe pornography or something like that. And it's true, you can be addicted to those things. But what happens with people who aren't addicted to those things? They listen to the list drugs, alcohol, pornography and they'll kind of excuse themselves. They're like, okay, all right, I'm good, I'm not addicted to those things. Great, this conversation doesn't apply to me. So while we will talk about those things, we're gonna have a broader definition of addiction that might fit more of us to, where we can't just skirt out of these conversations because we're not addicted to any particular one thing. So we're gonna jump into the definition of addiction. When y'all think of addiction, what comes to mind and any definitions you think would be useful?

Speaker 8:

I think it can have two different definitions. I think you can go one way it's more of like the drugs, alcohol, that kind of stuff, and that would be like to be physiologically or psychologically dependent on something, to where it starts forming it like daily habit in your life. And then I think the other one could be something more like work or sports or school, something like that, to where you're like just obsessively thinking about something and it's always occupy occupying your mind for those of you who are not in this room when you listen to this podcast.

Speaker 5:

Basically, if I mispronounce, or Chloe or anyone mispronounces a word, blake just cannot handle it yes, anyways. Justin, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 2:

I would say addiction is anything that gets to an obsessive point that causes you harm in some way, whether it's mentally, physically or even sometimes financially like it. You just need to make sure that if you're addicted to something, it well you hey, you don't need to get to that point. But if it gets to the point where you're, say, doing this thing over getting food for yourself or someone that you need to get food for, it's become a too big of a problem yeah, blake.

Speaker 3:

So, justin, what if I was addicted to doing the right thing?

Speaker 4:

I love people too much I just I'm too much like.

Speaker 5:

Jesus.

Speaker 3:

Michael Scott. Okay, is that is that gonna? Is that gonna hurt me?

Speaker 2:

um, what's your definition of a good things? I mean, if I live like Christ, I'm addicted to living like Christ well, I would say that that also doesn't harm you or others mentally, physically or even financially so it's not an addiction what if every day I wake up and I dress like Jesus.

Speaker 3:

Well, you know, we probably got a problem with that episode and on next week's episode brought to you by better help.

Speaker 5:

Anyways, blake is being a, but so excuse him. Any other thoughts on addictions, mariah?

Speaker 7:

I was just gonna say. I think we as people can have addictions that we don't realize. If that makes sense, even if it's small things like you said, like not huge things, maybe no one else would notice, but just like. Maybe if it's you know, I don't know you have to have a certain food every single day, are you? Are caffeine? Caffeine is a good one. Like you have to have your morning coke or coffee every day, or your are. You claim you're gonna be in a bad mood for the rest of the day, or maybe it could be. You know, some people would think that being addicted to the gym could be a good thing, but to me could turn into a negative thing and like, if you don't go to the gym and you freak out and you, you know, get obsessed with the way you look, I think that can be a negative aspect of addiction.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah, I think that's a good way of putting it, mariah. Now I'm not gonna ask all of you to divulge your deepest, darkest secrets, but for those of us who have struggled with addictions, how did you recognize you were addicted like? What kind of? Woke you up to that fact?

Speaker 3:

For me it was just the constant Living in limbo is when I realized like I had a serious problem and I noticed, like what I mean by living in limbo is like every day I woke up anxious and then it started affecting like my work ethic, like all I wanted to do is just lay in bed, like had no, had no real reason to move on in life or anything like that.

Speaker 4:

What do I need to tell you how many times you say like okay, like.

Speaker 5:

Just just that. So affected your day to day live. Day to day live, justin.

Speaker 2:

For me, I struggled with acts of self indulgence. And for me, when I was younger, you know, I let that be the only thing I did, day in and day out. I would wake up, do it rest, do it again, do it again, do it again, repeatedly and that also.

Speaker 2:

I let that stuff control me even beyond that where I didn't have a job. I dropped out of school at that point and it just ruled my entire life. And while that stuff brings temporary happiness, it it always fades away and you're always miserable by the time it wears off. So that's why you got to constantly do it again.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, I'd say just to kind of jump off that I mean definitely the day to day thing if it affects you day to day. But I'd say, if you kind of feel like you need or want it and it makes yourself better, whether it's Mental or physical, I'd say that's a big aspect, just like With certain substances and you claim you know this is helping me or this is like this is making me work better, like you know this pillar, this, whatever the substance is making me like, do better in life, and then you kind of realize it's not.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, mackenzie.

Speaker 1:

I think with addiction, you or what when I realized it is, you feel that tug of like I want to do right, and I know this is wrong, but you keep on doing it, you keep on doing it, you keep on doing it and you're like, no, I'm gonna do better this time, I'm gonna do better this time. But then you just come to your end of yourself each time and you just feel that shame. And so for me, I realize it was a true addiction, when I kept trying to do it myself, but I couldn't, you know, kept trying to get out of it, but you can't. And so then that's when you're like I really need help, don't know.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah Zeke.

Speaker 4:

I'm not gonna. I don't have anything new to say, but I do have a question of. I've found in myself a lot of times that I'll be blind to a thing, like some things that are obvious, like in the past, like pornography or something like that. That's obvious because, like you, felt the guilt, like right away. But I feel like there's some things that it's not as obvious because they're not like always mentioned. Like we hear about drug and this and you know drug addiction, pornography, etc. We hear about those, so like they're in, they're out in our mind, like we know this is a bad thing. But what about things that go kind of under the radar? How do we better realize when we have an addiction to those things?

Speaker 8:

Yeah, that's something I was going to ask too, because what if it's just part of your like daily routine, and how would you know if it's like a actual addiction, or just like a yeah, I'm addicted to being wrong, so you're very good, you need to be right, you need to fulfill your addiction every day.

Speaker 5:

So what if this addiction, you're saying, is a normal part of your everyday life? Exactly what happens then?

Speaker 2:

Well, I think, if we go back to kind of what I was saying earlier about it harming you, if there's something you do like, say, you have a hobby I know, zeke, you go play pickleball. Does pickleball ever get in the way of you going to church? Not, yet Does pickleball ever get in the way of you going to get the food that you need to eat? Yes, have you ever spent more money on pickleball that made it to the point where you can pay bills or pay for groceries?

Speaker 4:

So I see where you go with this and I think those are good starting points. But I mean like other things that may not be like obvious that they're harmful, like, for example, take for me, I'll say so YouTube, like I can sit and binge on YouTube for like an hour and I'm like I'll look back after that.

Speaker 4:

I'm like I just wasted a whole hour and I can't remember hardly anything. I watch, so like stuff like that. Like I can realize it then, but like it took a while before. I was like you know what. This really isn't that healthy. So yeah, there is some harm, but what about when the harm isn't obvious, Like it's not actually cost me financial? I'm not missing work for it. I'm not missing other events.

Speaker 2:

So, Mariah.

Speaker 7:

Well, I was pretty much going to say that too. Social media, to me, is the biggest addiction that we don't realize until, like you know, you say you might realize it after you're. Oh man, I spent two hours on here, or like, whoa, my screen time was seven hours a day. That's wild Like, and so I think. But yeah, like you said, it's not really causing financial harm. It's nothing, you know, no harm that you can see until, I'd say, in smaller effects like wasting time. Social media is a huge waste of time, justin.

Speaker 2:

Well, well, that's what I was going to say is doing. That stuff does also have very obvious negative connotations to it. Like, for example, there were times when I was on TikTok I would scroll and I think I'd be scrolling for minutes just before I go to bed and next thing I know it's three o'clock in the morning. Very obviously that has harmful parts to it, because I can't go to sleep or I'll do it during the day and I don't do things I need to be doing, like cleaning or you know things along those lines. I think it's more obvious. You're right. When you're caught in any addiction, it's hard to notice it at the moment, but eventually things become obvious.

Speaker 2:

And also it's up to people as a community to help kind of be like hey man, so what's going on? Have someone you trust to help keep an eye on you with that stuff.

Speaker 5:

I think, zeke, I'm going to go in a more spiritual direction of sin is that which dulls our love for God, and we often, again the big ones, you think drug, alcohol, pornography, others are gambling, there are major forms of addiction that we think of, but we can get addicted to things that just dull our love for God.

Speaker 5:

And so this is where we always have to be taking like spiritual assessment of our life, where it's like where am I with God, am I desiring to worship, read the Bible, pray, serve, be kind, and if you kind of take spiritual inventory, that can kind of expose certain behaviors as dulling your love for God. So that's if you want to go more in that direction, that might be helpful as well. Before we get to the other side of the question, which is how do we handle addictions, tips, tricks, strategies. Maybe if it's more of an emergency situation, you might have to do things very strong, sudden steps of action, etc. So we'll get to that, but before we do, any other thoughts on defining addiction and how do we recognize we're addicted, before we move on Any other thoughts there, isaac, I would say, if you think, you might be addicted to something.

Speaker 6:

Okay, I would say, if you think you might be addicted to something, small or big, take a day, a day or two, a week or something, and try to go without that. If it's super hard, you just find yourself doing it anyways, you're probably addicted.

Speaker 3:

That's probably the most telltale sign. If someone says, okay, can you go a day without it, and it immediately either gives you anxiety or you start really contemplating it or something like that withdrawals or stuff like that that's probably the biggest indicator that you're addicted to something.

Speaker 5:

So the inability to stop is very important as an indicator. Now we'll go to the other side. What have y'all found, either in your life or you've heard it's helped. What are some strategies to overcome addiction?

Speaker 3:

So for me on my addiction, something that really helped me. And it actually started out because I was kind of addicted to the idea of a relationship Like that's all I could think about. And so what really helped me was one time I went to a Bible study and this girl was talking about how she had been praying for a relationship and she had realized that she had thought about it and dwelled on it so much that it had become an idol For me. Once I started looking at it at from that lens like you know, I had a I've had trouble with a Pornography and stuff like that I realized like I'm treating these things as idols.

Speaker 3:

I may not be praying to them and worshiping them, but the fact that I indulge in them is a form of like worship, like if I'm doing it whenever I feel sad rather than like going to God with my problems, or doing it when I feel happy rather than Celebrating God like, I realized like I was putting those in the place of God. So once I finally realized that and this didn't, this help for me I'm not saying this is the one, so I'm not saying this is like gonna fix it, but for me it helped a lot once I realized like, hey, god, I realized I've made these things idols and you revealed this to me. Now I'm gonna start taking the steps to put you in those positions and Really, I mean, it's helped me greatly. I think, I think I'm I don't even know how many months I've been without even Think about any, if anything like that.

Speaker 2:

Okay, justin for me, something that I found that helps is being you say, if you know, sometimes an addiction gets bad, or I know I said I was addicted to acts of self-indulgence, but I've been through pretty bad things with abuse in the past and that's that's something to try to get help with as well. Finding a community that can help you get through that of people who are struggling as well. I go to, I go to celebrate recovery and I'm up until really finding this place, I've been the furthest away from Giving into those acts. I'm 56 days free of that, so I think that has helped me more than anything as well. As find that community that's Christian focus. That's something as well. It needs to be Christian focused and putting your gaze towards God instead of like, oh, I can do this if I just keep and if I just do this myself and get up and do it.

Speaker 4:

I had a question for Justin before you go, so I agree with you. If someone's out there thinking, why does it need to be Christian focused?

Speaker 2:

What would you say? So, without that, I kind of said I don't think I said it the best you rely on yourself and on your own human nature, which is what caused you to give in to that anyways, yeah, and if you rely on that, you will never. You will never get better. But if you give your problems over to God and ask him to help you with them, he will be there through it all and help you. Power through, no matter what so I'm hearing correctly.

Speaker 4:

It's kind of like saying this is someone's admitting it. Like I have a problem that I've created, I need to fix it. And they're like and you're like, hey, you need to go to you know a Christian organization that can help you. And they're like no, I can just do it myself. Like weren't you the one who put you? You just said you're the one who put yourself there.

Speaker 2:

You can't because if you're relying on your own understanding at it, when you first do it it feels great. You feel terrible afterwards, but when you first do it it feels great and whether that's, whether that's with stuff like alcohol or drugs, you know it's. You go too far with it because your own human understanding will get in the way.

Speaker 3:

I'm not just a tag on to that real quick. Another thing too, like when you do realize like You're right, like it comes from our self, and why it needs to be God focused so much is because you know, as humans we were made to worship something. And so if it's not God focused, like I've heard I mean I've seen stories of people that you know they're not Christians and they're like I overcame this addiction. But then you look at their lifestyle they just replaced one addiction with the other.

Speaker 2:

That's very good. That's very wise.

Speaker 5:

Mackenzie.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So I think, practically ways to Kind of help with addiction obviously take it to God. But practically you could always ask like, and what is what I'm doing honoring God? It's specifically if you're in the moment kind of like, oh, should I do this? Should or not? Just ask yourself does this honor God? And secondly, if it doesn't go as far away from it as possible, include as much boundaries as possible and not get as close as you can to them without crossing that line, but getting as far away from them.

Speaker 1:

And and lastly, I think with addiction a lot of times you feel shame and you feel guilt and you feel dirty or you know a lot of insecurities.

Speaker 1:

And I think going to the root of the issue of like what you're feeling to God Can also really impact that. Because a lot, of, a lot of the times we have stuff Underlying those addictions that we have to take to God too, of like maybe not feeling worthy or not feeling pretty or not feeling like we're good enough, and so we take that to God and let him work on our heart and naturally he sanctifies us through that process and those addictions, he heals us from those. And I think I think a lot of people too will say like, oh, just give it time, like time heals all wounds. But we need to realize, as Christians too, time doesn't heal wounds. It's God who heals wounds and it's that process of sanctification Sanctification through him, not just, you know, give it a year this time, next year, you'll be fine. It's more of like no, I need to be completely dependent on God and who he says I am and what he's called me to be, and He'll work it out. If that, makes sense.

Speaker 2:

That makes sense, justin, something as well, if you want to. I say sober in this stand. I say sober in a more wide sense than when I'm coming Thank you, blake, he just high-fived me because I'm moving around with my hands. I Say sober in a more wide sense. So when I say this, if you want to stay sober, you also need Accountability partners. Find people in your life for you, trust, who can ask you hey, how are you doing with this? What's what's going on? Are you struggling? Today Did you give in? And I also think that you need to have grace for yourself when you give in. One thing they stress as as celebrate recovery is you don't. You don't beat yourself that you fell down. You fell down. You celebrate yourself for getting back up drive sober or get pulled over.

Speaker 5:

Thank you, I'm like message Chloe.

Speaker 8:

I was just gonna say, if your addiction that you recognize gets serious enough and you find that you can't, you know, overcome it with, like, just on your own means or with other people, you might have to reach out to professionals.

Speaker 3:

And you might have to.

Speaker 8:

You might have to get medicine, because there are medicines out there they can help deal with those things. But if you want to talk more on like a Christian perspective, I think it's in 2nd Corinthians 10. It talks about taking every thought captive to obey Christ, and what that would mean is like we really actually intentionally Think about our thoughts. If that makes sense and, like McKenzie was talking about, if it doesn't honor God, do we probably need to Change our behavior and maybe we could find something else to replace. Like if we take a thought captive, that's about our addiction we might, could you know, do something healthy in its place instead, just by recognizing it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. So we've talked about it from a couple different angles. We've got the practical side of like, hey, you need to have accountability partners, because it's hard to fix stuff on your own, cuz this is how you got to this place was on your own pretty much in most cases. So you need accountability partners. Sometimes you need professionals that can help you with, who are Experienced in this field and know the best ways to do that. And then we've also talked a little bit more about the spiritual aspect.

Speaker 4:

So in the spiritual aspect, something that the Bible talks about over and over again if you just read Paul's letters, she'll get a whole lesson plan on this, as he talks about how this is an attack from the enemy and he even calls it war. And I think it's. I think Peter calls it war. Yeah, peter's the one who describes as war in 1 Peter 5, 8, where he tells us be so reminded and watchful. Your adversary, the devil, prowls like a roaring lion, lion seeking someone to devour. So this is like a war that has going on.

Speaker 4:

But then Paul also tells us some first Corinthians that there's no temptation that's not common man, and that there's nothing that you're going to tempted with that someone else hasn't been tempted with before. And God does say that he won't tip you. He doesn't say that he won't give you something that you Can't handle. He actually says he won't give you something he can't handle. So, like McKenzie was saying, ultimately it goes back to him. Like we need to do all these other things. I'm not discounting those like use all the resources God has given us, but in the day also realize, like he's the best resource, let's use him along with all these other ones. All right, Mariah.

Speaker 7:

Um, I was just kind of gonna jump off what Chloe and Zeke both said, kind of in the Sense, or, I guess, more what Chloe said Um, I think, as Christians, some people think it I don't know, maybe look down upon or odd for us to struggle with some of these issues, but we're all human too. So I think you know, I think we will need professional help, especially within the severity of what the issue is. I think so people are embarrassed or, you know, maybe like, feel shameful towards, like that they're struggling with those things, especially since you're kind of supposed to, you know, not be struggling with those as a Christian in some senses, especially within the church, I think some people don't, like I don't know, receive it as well as others, and especially that, if you like, genuinely need help with an addiction, I think it's hard to come forward sometimes.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, Mackenzie.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think what Zeke was saying too about that underline Calls. I think sometimes we even go straight to the behavior and like I need to fix this. I need to fix this, like I know it's causing me harm. But what we don't realize is the devil may even want you to just focus on fixing that instead of going back to God and saying Lord, I feel Insecure of your love, that you truly love me, like I can't believe that you truly love me and so I'm seeking this acceptance and other things. And that is the bigger issue. You know, it's not even the fact that you may be harming yourself or addicted to like Man's approval, but it's the fact, like you truly don't believe the gospel in the sense that God loved us so much that he sent His own son to die for us. That makes sense.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's the. That's something even without addition. There's so many times where I feel like it would change our entire outlook on life if we truly understood how much God loved us. Oh yeah, so take, for example, like someone you look up to in life. You know whether that's a celebrity, or Michael Jordan yes, our friend or something like. Imagine meeting that person. Maybe it's a celebrity, imagine meeting that person, them knowing your name, like that would mean a lot. Like that'd be kind of cool, don't you think? But I mean, if maybe a little bit Michael Jordan, your name might be a little creepy, let's slow it down, man, take me on a date first like.

Speaker 4:

I mean, like that'd be so awesome to have a friend that you look up so highly to, and yet we have someone who created that person, who's more powerful than anyone we know, and he knows us by name. He says he calls his sheep and they hear his voice like he knows each individual person. If one of us goes missing, comes running after us. That's why he tells us so, like just knowing that fact alone Should give us the courage and the strength to get through any kind of situation.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I think it's a great way of putting it, and what I've liked is we have done is he put it a good job of balancing the practical but also the spiritual how to look at things and how to remember our relationship with God. One thing I'll mention on the practical side is To fight temptation and to fight addictions. You need to understand that Satan doesn't play games. He wants to destroy you. He wants to destroy your life, for your relationships, your job, your Anything you can think of anything good in this world. Satan wants to take it from you, and so he's gonna play nasty, he's gonna play mean, and so you have to be just as vicious when you're fighting sin and Just think about ways this again being more on the practical side Is there a time of the day that you face more temptation than other times?

Speaker 5:

Is there a group of friends you're around that you know? When you're with them, you do and say things you really shouldn't? All right, well, maybe we need to get some different friends. Let's see they're just all these different things. Maybe we need to be careful when we're on our phones and social media and get specific in your fight. Don't get vague. Oh, I need to be on my phone less or oh, I need to be whatever. That's fine, that's a good starting point, but get specific and certain times of the day be be aware, um, certain, you know. Just just try to get as specific in your fight and your strategies as possible.

Speaker 3:

Just to add on to what you say you know, if you, if you feel like you know you're like hey, yeah, I want to do that, but there's like this bit of hesitation, understand that that is human, that's human nature kind of revealing itself. As humans, we love Routine, we love structure and that's kind of where addictions kind of come from is. It's this thing that you know is gonna happen, regardless of how it makes you feel and I've been picking at Justin all day about this. But it is really something that, ever since Nate told me about it, it's really something that I've stood by and that's comfortable misery. So you know it's.

Speaker 3:

I understand it's like, hey, I want to get out of this. But taking those steps forward, you know, giving it up to God and stuff, it's going to put you in a place where you're gonna be uncomfortable. You're not gonna have the same routine, you're not gonna have the same structure. So understand that, even for all of us in here I think I can speak for all of us in here We've all been in that place when we're ready to step away, where we've had to deal with Going from our comfortable misery to stepping on to like uncomfortable growth. Yeah, painful growth, painful growth yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think something positive to give people hope who might be struggling, like right now, in the thick of it, is that we all staying here today. Maybe, you know, maybe it's been five years, maybe it's five months last week, whatever, but we've all struggled with it and we all can say that the satisfaction that we might have gotten from those addiction, however fleeting, however temporary, the joy and the purpose and the love that you feel from God is so much, so much greater, and so, no matter how hard it seems, now when you're on the outside you get to look back and say thank you, lord, so much for bringing me through this and I know that, through your strength, like we overcame this together.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

A beautiful thing to remember as well, if you do fall down. Something that kind of reflects God's love is the story of Hosea. And when he went the second time to go find his wife, he never. I think I've said this in a previous podcast, but I'll say this again. You know he never asked her to change. In that moment he said come back, I'll take you as you are and then we can work on rebuilding. And that's the exact same like that is so symbolic to God's relationship with us. He never like when you, when you fall down, it's not like you've gone down this beaten path. God is legit like a magnet, like the minute you want to go back to God, you're like right there. You don't have to run through all these, you don't have to take the path that you went to get away from him. You're like right there and he says I take you as you are, love me, accept me, and we'll get through this together.

Speaker 4:

So well put, I forgot what I was going to say but Nate has given us those. Hey, you guys shut up, so we can stop this.

Speaker 3:

I have come on, guys, what.

Speaker 5:

I do is I look as we're talking for anyone who wants to jump into the conversation. But anyways, we'd love to hear your thoughts on this.

Speaker 3:

Anyways, everyone shut up, Anyways into that segue.

Speaker 5:

See, y'all are bullying me now.

Speaker 2:

Thank you that's all I'm waiting for someone.

Speaker 5:

Justin, you want to?

Speaker 2:

Something I want to say is it seems we're about to sign off, Mr Williams.

Speaker 5:

Oh my goodness, whatever.

Speaker 2:

Something I want to say if you're out there, struggling with addiction or you know anything like that. A know that you're not alone. There are millions of people who suffer and you can all suffer together. Wow, that's not a terrible thing.

Speaker 5:

Suffering together is a good thing, just know, if you're listening to this podcast, you are hopeless. There is not. You can't change.

Speaker 4:

Well, that's a sign it's over. If you listen to this, you've lost all hope.

Speaker 5:

Yes, you hit rock bottom. This is why I started to get it. This is why I started to get it, justin, go on.

Speaker 2:

Suffer together, you can all come together and go to God and I think that if you are suffering, go find that community, a Christian community, whether it's something like you're a jerk Nate. You said it, not really you put yourself you've done this whole, but go find something like AA celebrate recovery, which there are some all around the nation. There's one every day, so there's almost no excuse that you can't go to something like that. They're all around, so go seek help and go seek God. What if I don't have transportation?

Speaker 2:

There are several people in those organizations who help you get there. Okay, thanks, there are online options as well.

Speaker 5:

Zeke had something smart he wanted to say.

Speaker 3:

And whether or not you know from all of us here and I genuinely mean this when I say this, and I'm sure everybody will be behind me on this Don't assume that. Don't assume that, yeah, I don't. But regardless of whoever you are, even though we don't know you, even if you just seem like a random listener we don't know your name or anything as Christians we do pray for each and every one of you that listen and maybe those who, like I said, we may not know you but we do. We pray for anyone that hears us to either come to Jesus. And those Christians who are struggling with things just know like put your faith in God, put your trust in God, he will see you out of it. First Chronicles, 1634. I'm going to butcher this because I read it this morning, but it says give thanks to the Lord for his faith, for his love endures forever, for his good.

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He's good. He's good, he endures forever.

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God loves you and that love is going to endure forever and I mean he will get you through it. He says put your faith in me and I will see you through.

Speaker 5:

Amen and amen with that, if I'm allowed if I'm allowed to finish the episode, I'll go ahead and do that. Make sure to follow us on social media. We're on Facebook, twitter I guess I have to call it X I really don't like calling it X but Facebook, twitter, instagram. We also have a YouTube channel as well, and let us know your thoughts, leave a comment, reach out to us online. Our website is dangersfaithnet. And that is all for today. Again, we have Blake, justin, mariah Mackenzie, the one and only Isaac Zeke and Chloe Glad to have the whole gang here with us today and keep coming by. Follow us, like, share, subscribe, whatever and we'll come out with more episodes in the future.

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